they are there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the first movements... this is one of the moments when dad wants to be mom _SO_ bad! of course, i have no idea what it feels like and the explaination attempts are rather vague, and _OF COURSE_ they move only when my hand is _NOT_ on the belly... but bruna says they move. and not only once, but several times... so, for me it is waiting again... WAITING! great... hmpff!